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I know that there is much extra expense of having to super chill the headless lounge at the DLCC, however from my own observation.. it could be 30 degrees, but with no air flow, it is still uncomfortably warm. If it is 80 degrees, but there is a strong breeze, I can perform for hours.

what if the extra $$ to superchill the room was spent on a dozen more hurricane fans, and let the room be at a normal operating temperature that won't invoke extra expense. Most of the time there were fans being hogged by heads drying or when it got crowded, all the fans would be occupied, and just standing in a cold room with no airflow, did nothing.. also getting out of the suit in that room all sweaty, with it that cold could be a risk of thermal shock as well.

if the room was made to be a big wind tunnel at 72 degrees, I think suited and people who get out of suit would feel more comfortable than a 62 degree room with not so much air flow..

I suposing the extra cooling fee could easily offset by one year of buying fans?

Anyone else feel the same way??

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One obstacle: Storage. Those fans take up a tremendous amount of space, particular since they cannot be stacked and cannot have anything else placed atop them due to their shape. A dozen of them would take up nearly an entire storage locker on their own.

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For the fans we currently use, this is true.

But I'm sure we're not the first organization to face this problem. There has to be some kind of squarish "stackable" fan out there...

 
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I will say though the 'super chilled' headless lounge was a godsend. When I took my suiters into the non-chilly one we went through water like crazy, the 3 fans there were either being sat in front of, and the circulation was minimal. So while more fans might have helped some, the lower temp in the room over all was a huge difference as well. Of the two suiters with me, one never stopped sweating in the hotel headless lounge due to warmth, but when we were in the chilled lounge he cooled off very quickly.

If you do go the non-chilled route I would hope maybe you can get another of those head-trees. The problem in the small headless lounge in the hotel, that we experienced, is one of the fans had been tilted flat and people were putting their heads on it. We had to eventually go over, politely ask and help people move heads, and then tilt the fan to have it cool. So in other words, if you do go the more fan route, maybe please post signs asking people to NOT turn fans into head dryers.

Otherwise it was just the issue in the hotel one of coming in and having no water from any of the pitchers. That was resolved quickly tho - about 5 minutes after we got there someone came in with more pitchers of water.

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I brought 2 of my own fans along.. one is a blower that was hardly used at all (I brought it along to be used as a head fan. )
that one was in the convention center. I left my bigger house fan in the westin..

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Hey, Uncle Kage, I have a suggestion that sort of piggybacks off of Yappy's idea.

What if someone built a multi-shelf like contrivance that could be put up against one wall, and easily broken down later on for storage? Then people could take small to medium sized fans (which should be easier to store), and arrange them on the shelves to point one direction only, and that direction being towards the opposite wall, where tables would be set up with water.

Then, when the people are getting water they have fans pointing directly at them. Once the place gets clogged with people, they'd have to turns in front of the wall of fans though....but that shouldn't be a problem. People were fine waiting their turn for that piped thing that was in the other super chilled Headless Lounge, or so it seemed.

It's a suggestion and it might not even work. It's just an idea floating around in my head that I thought I should share.

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Well, first off, we'd be relying on people to bring fans that happened to fit in the contraption. Secondly, if you put it against the wall, you lose air circulation from behind; it would have to be free-standing since it would need to be at least 2 feet from the wall in order for enough air to get behind it. Thirdly, it would have to be able to be assembled by one person without the aid of power tools; otherwise, we would have to hire carpenters to put it together for us and then disassemble it again, in addition to the Teamsters we'd have to hire to cart it in and out.

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There is a modular shelving system used by many retailers and homes called "Lundia" or "Skandia". If you've ever shopped at Pier 1 Imports, you've seen them in action.

These shelving systems are lightweight pine and use a pin/peg system for assembly. I've assembled one by myself before. Should we opt to use such a system (not saying we would), we could potentially have such a unit with only one or two shelves on it.

Just a thought.

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The headless lounge in the DLCC was terrific, and in my opinion, I preferred the small silver fans over the larger red ones. I have no idea why, but I felt the smaller ones were better at directing airflow at one's body. All I know is that when I sat down in front of one of those, and had my head off and suit opened up to aim at my chest, I was able to be cooled down in a matter of mere minutes.

The headless loung in the Westin was, on the other hand, a tad warm. The pitchers of water went quickly, and most were chewing on ice. Plus, the amount of fans in that room were minimal and also being used up fairly quickly. Even when fans were open for use, the room was still warm so it took me longer to cool down. But, this could also be due to the size of that room compared to the DLCC, so airflow obviously played a factor. Plus, smaller room with more people equals heat. Sticking out tongue

As far as the number of fans, like Uncle Kage said, the amount of room to store them woud probably negate getting more. I know the DLCC room was great, but the Westin room could use better cooling. Maybe a couple more fans would help, but keep the temperature at the same as it was.

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I was about the westin headless lounge at one point in it ran out of water. I was with a suiter friend of mind, cause he wanted me to go with him. I once I was there was running out a few times fetching water for people out of the drinking foutain outside, which oddly enough was piss warm. I must agree, it was kinda hot in there and I'm not was just being an escort!

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You could go ahead and buy those fans, it wouldn't hurt. But what use would it be if people keep leaving the doors wide open to the lounge?

You people know who you are, who leave, and push the door wide open, and then take off. Then it's up to someone else to close the doors before the temperature inside stabilizes to the same temp outside the doors.

It wouldn't hurt to have more fans, though.

A side note, that contrivance that was standing in the middle of the lounge was pure genius. It would be awesome if it could be built up to have twice as many pipes as it did this year, or at least for a second one to be built. Than people could spend less time waiting for a chance on the rack, and won't have to resort to putting the heads on top of the fans that are in various parts of the room. It's just a suggestion...that might also have been contributing to a higher temperature, when people put their heads on top of the fans.

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You could go ahead and buy those fans, it wouldn't hurt. But what use would it be if people keep leaving the doors wide open to the lounge?

Yeah, I noticed that being a very big problem. It was especially prevalent during the ballroom dances, since fursuiters were constantly in and out of that room. Even though I wasn't in fursuit *I* was getting annoyed at those doors staying open. I must have closed them at least about two dozen times before I left for the night. And you'd think of all people, fursuiters would have been the first and foremost to make sure those doors were closed: for both the sake of the "magic" and for the sake of the temperature.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.

Every time I went in with my Spotter, Sooth, he and I would end up having to walk over at least twice per visit to shut the doors. It sort of made me angry. I would imagine so much money is spent on keeping that room cooled, and then people just throw the doors wide open, as if they don't care.

Maybe, at AC 09, huge signs can be put up on the inside, saying that the doors need to be kept closed so that the room stays cooler.

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Yeah, but as I noted in another thread, you can't post rules for every common sense situation.

Given that the headless lounge there was heavily air conditioned and the hallway was not, it shouldn't be that much of a leap for people to assume that the doors should remained closed. Aside from the cooling problem, there's always about two dozen fursuiters in there with their heads off. Lots of broken magic.

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People leaving the door open was annoying >.> I know I had to keep closing it. Talk about magic being broken, how many of the female fursuits are worn by men? Sticking out tongue Thats not something you want ever con-goer to know, keep those damn doors closed.

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I'm guessing a rig of cheep department store box fans wouldn't work would it?

I'm no carpenter but most of these box fans have a metal frame you could bolt them together maybe 2 high and build a wall of these things along one side. maybe having the bottom row set on wider feet for extra stability. I could look into it if you like

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I absolutely loved the Headless lounge at the DLCC. Blast of cool air? Any time.

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Carpet drying fans can be stacked...they are emensly heavy though Sad

and who ever brought the head tubes, awww yeah head tubes!

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As much as the tube structure was nice, I really liked the accordian hose that hung from the center of it. Made it really nice to use to blow cool air into the face (while still wearing the head) or even down the collar of the suit in front of the neck or behind the neck, for a quick cool down without really taking the suit off if one had to do a quick run-in before going back out. Smiling

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A wooden square frame of sorts could be buit that are slightly longer depth-wise so that smal beams of wood (probably about 3 inches long) and have some of them on one side hinged or something so thayt you can remove the fan.
This would allow you to stack the fans on top of eachother because all the weight would be supported by the wood structure and the fans would not be touching eachother or supporting one another's weight.

Now here's a crappy diogram to try to explain my crazy idea.

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I apologise for the bad Gramar. I was quite tired, and an error will not allow me to edit the post.
So here.
Edit: A wooden square frame of sorts could be built that is slightly longer depth-wise so that small beams of wood (probably about 3 inches long)could be attached facing inwards to hold the fan in it (have some of them on one side hinged or something so that you can remove the fan.)

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You would think the guy responsible for the destruction of the 12 colonies by the Cylons would use something other than MS paint. Laughing out loud

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Of course he'd use MS Paint. You don't think that Bill Gates is human, do you? Evil

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You'd do the same if you got to spend time in a Baystar filled with 6's and 3's!
(Or maybe some 5's and 9's XD)

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who ever brought the head drier unit to AC , i think you! I worked wounderfully. I made a smaller version that was feilded at FAU with success. now if we had a couple of these head driers, that shouid free up the Ag Fans. Only exception is during high demand events like the parade and dances. Does anyone know who built the head drier at AC?

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I hope I'm not mistaken...but I believe that was Panzier that built the amazing head drying tree.

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I am interested in finding the blower he used.

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I dunno if you guys already do this but at TFF they had a contraption made of PVC in the headless lounge that was attached to a strong fan where fursuiters could put their heads. All the heads were placed there leaving the other fans free to cool the fursuiter themselves. I dont know the person who made it but i bet you con staff people know each other and can figure it out. 

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Dude...this is a thread from NINE years ago. They've had said PVC pipe contraption in the lounge for a while now. Wyd

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